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Friday, January 20. 2006

The bad news first:

The Guilford County Commisioners voted 8-2 to sepnd $7.5 million of the taxpayer's money for the privlege of being guinea pigs for ES&S' untested TS system. While a few commissioners did bother to question the issue, several who shall remain nameless were so solicitous of the Gilbert and his gang, I thought they were going to offer to massage their prostates.

Despite providing hard evidence that Gilbert had cooked the numbers, the commissioners never bothered to ask about this. Most were just content to accept the BoE's "expert" opinion and agree with whatever they proposed. The only sticking point was the issue of voting centers.

As you know, we have been mentioning the stupidity of shutting down 40, or so, precincts in favor of large voting centers that voters would have to travel to in order to cast their vote on election day. We have made a point to include criticism of the plan in our communications with commissioners about DREs versus OpScan. Our scorn for voting centers seems to have found a receptive audience, even if our concerns about DREs didn't.

Commissioners Alston, Yow and Cashion made it clear that they were prepared to vote against the BoE on their plan to buy DREs if they didn't drop the voting centers idea. Several other commissioners made similar noises without saying it outright. Faster than you could say "Voting centers? What are voting centers?" the BoE jettisoned the plan. It was removed from the agenda by a vote of 10-0, a rare display of unanimity for these folks.

What next? I am mulling this over. I have a few avenues to pursue and see what I can turn up. The issue is far from over.

Posted by David Allen in North Carolina Activists & Issues at 13:28 | Comments (12) | Trackbacks (0)

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David, I'd like your thoughts on the following:

1. When Diebold shut down Bev's site, you contacted Robert Mendenhall Jr of all people...Tom Flocco's right hand man, to set up a temp site. Why him of all people?

2. You've never released the recording from the meeting you telecom conference that you attended with R Doug Jones and representatives of Diebold, ES&S, and others. Why haven't you released this recording, and will you do so now that I am demanding that you do?

I have a lot more, but I'll start off with softballs.

John

#1 John Dean on 2006-01-20 15:34 (Reply)

Sorry about that sloppy sentence in #2 - it should read "You've never released the recording from the telecom conference that you attended with R Doug Jones and representatives of Diebold, ES&S, and others. Why haven't you released this recording, and will you do so now that I am demanding that you do?

#2 John Dean on 2006-01-20 15:36 (Reply)

Stuff what you "demand". Do you think you are God (or should I say Bev)?

I am through wasting my time dealing with your delusional ravings.

You want to worship Bev Harris, then be my guest.

But do it on your own web site. If you have anything USEFUL to contribute to what we are doing, then post away. I have been more than fair and allowed you a forum for your criticism, something Bev Harris does NOT allow. That ends today.

If you want a copy of the meeting between the BBV Yakuza and ITAA, ask Bev, she has a copy and has had one for over two years.

#2.1 David Allen (Homepage) on 2006-01-21 14:01 (Reply)

George Gilbert was trying to use Vote Centers as a cost savings argument of his own, trying to make touchscreens seem less expensive.
Currently, there is no legislation in place for him to do that.
Gilbert is trying to work with other counties to lobby legislators to set up a pilot program for Vote Centers.
Once people find out the truth about this "poll tax of the 21st century", they run far and fast from them.

George Gilbert would eliminate 75% of the precincts. Guilford would go from 159 regular precincts and 11 early voting sites to20 early voting sites that stay open through election day and 20 additional voting sites on election day.

Guiford would go from 1,200 voting machines down to 400.

649 square miles is alot of real estate for only 40 voting locations on election day.

Which county commissioners want to give up precincts that are heavily
of their political party?

Which county commissioners want their elderly, poor, minority or disabled constituents to have to go further to vote?

Would you vote at business that donates heavily to a political party?

How much would these facilities cost?

How long will lines be?

Gilbert doesn't care, he only wants to make his own job easier, no matter what the cost.

#3 Joyce McCloy (Homepage) on 2006-01-21 17:38 (Reply)

David,

I notice you did not respond to my first point...but then, how could you. BTW I know a lot more now - your links to Flocco, his links to Alistair and Andy, etc. I'll be exposing all of it very soon.

Bev says you never sent her a copy of the tape, and she has never heard the entire tape...only portions. Again I say that you must release this tape - it has tremendous value, and nobody has heard it. Why would you not release it?

David, you can ban me, but regardless, your swiftboating of Bev IS coming to an end. As for this site, it's just for show, nothing more. YOU DON'T EVEN BELIEVE IN THE WORK.

Of all the people, you went to Flocco's right hand man - how damning.

BTW I've also gathered evidence to show that you, Roxanne aka Boredtodeath, and others were in fact conspiring to file Qui Tam behind Bev's back. Her instincts were right all along, but what she didn't know was that you're buddies with freepers like Tom Flocco and his right hand man, Robert Mendenhall. Once I found that big piece of the puzzle, your fate was sealed.

The truth now becomes your enemy. So ban me! Let's watch you go through the last gyrations, like a dying fish out of water, furiously trying to do something to prevent others from finding out THAT YOU WERE A TROLL ALL ALONG.

After all, if you weren't a troll and weren't trying to file a Qui Tam, you would have released that recording a long time ago.

John

#4 John Dean on 2006-01-21 21:43 (Reply)

I think that the person claiming to be John Dean should be banned. His/her only goal is to interfere with the work going on in NC.

Bev Harris has NEVER helped any with the verified voting issue in North Carolina. Nor have her minions.

But no kidding, David, I strongly recommend that you ban the ip of this John Dean, because their intent is clear, and you don't do all of this work to have some A-hole use up your bandwith with their BS.

If this Dean person cared about election reform, he wouldn't be harassing you. And it is harassment, pure and simple, so do your readers a favor, ban the idiot.

#5 Citizen on 2006-01-23 00:30 (Reply)

Done and done.

I am fed up with this freak. I have also warned him about attacking other posters, so he is gone.

#5.1 David Allen on 2006-01-23 21:20 (Reply)

Another thing that is amusing - Bev fans always condemn people and accuse them of planning to file the Qui Tam, evilizing them for such, when it is the Great Bev Harris who did it.

Whose newsletter always ends with a request for donation, and lets you know they accept Visa? Bev's.

Who gets paid to do this? Bev.

What has Bev ever done for North Carolina - not a darn thing.

So get rid of Dean, block that IP, because we need the information on this site. I use it all the time to forward to media and to various officials.

Thanks for all of the work you are doing in North Carolina David, and thanks for not asking for money all of the time like Bev does.

She trashes most people, I remember when she turned on Open Voting Consortium. Agh!

Block block block!

#6 citizen on 2006-01-23 00:34 (Reply)

LOL, is this another of your sock puppets? Perhaps it's Citizen "Spook" - well known disinfo artist.

Here's yet another bombshell to make your day...

All of us have believed that David Allen attended a secret telecom conference on 8/22/03, along with R Doug Jones, a VoteHere dude, and reps from Diebold, ES&S, etc. David has never released the recording from this meeting - only a partial transcript. Since David has now been shown to have ties to Tom Flocco and his right-hand man, and used those ties to set Bev Harris up, that partial transcript cannot be trusted.

BUT THE REALLY COOL THING IS...did David really attend? Or did Roxanne attend? Or did anyone attend? Or both?

A DU poster by the name of Ewing2001 used to tag-team in threads with JohnHorne. Who is JohnHorne? One of Roxanne's close associates.

On 8/23/03, one day after the secret conference, Ewing2001 posted at the Global Free Press that it was Roxanne Jekot who attended the meeting!

So David, was it Roxanne and not you? is that why you've never released the tape?

John

#7 John Dean on 2006-01-23 01:01 (Reply)

Good bye, Mr. Dean. Have a nice life.

#7.1 David Allen on 2006-01-23 21:23 (Reply)

HI neighbor, I just moved to Greensboro, and I care about this issue. I also am occasionally active in the DU forums- and have been posting in the local one lately. Anything I can do to help let me know.
Some of this stuff seems so bizarre.
I just wish they would pass the RH550, Russ Holt bill- so sad that some folks are fighting so hard to destroy our democracy.

#7.1.1 Jacalyn Engler (Homepage) on 2006-01-28 07:26 (Reply)

David, I'm just getting started.

It's all coming out this week - your lies, your links to Tom Flocco, everything.

John

#8 John Dean on 2006-01-23 22:05 (Reply)

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